January 2013
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@Clt_VoyagesSncf Pour une annulation, le site renvoie vers le tél, le tél vers un guichet. On est très loin d'une gare — on fait quoi? Merci
non, comme je disais le site dit d'appeler, le serveur vocal dit d'aller en gare, ce qui n'est pas possible...
Sauf que comme je vous l'ai déjà expliqué (deux fois...) le serveur vocal renvoie en gare pour "problème technique".
n00b ;-)
bah des excuses, des excuses...
Pour cause de travaux je suis embedded chez @spintank. Je découvre la ferveur incessante du monde impitoyable de la comm'.
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Tu t'en rends compte maintenant?
Mais oui c'est fun! Par exemple l'algo de w3.org/html/wg/drafts… a au moins 8 bugs, dont 2 majeurs. Les trouver, c'est fun ;)
Et si ça t'amuse, tu devrais venir en écrire avec nous!
Justement, tu connais le dicton: "if you want something done, ask a busy person" ;-)
Mon expérience est que les gens qui arrivent à en faire beaucoup peuvent souvent faire un petit truc en plus ici ou là.
Alors que si tu demandes à un glandeur, tu vas attendre longtemps :)
Trust me I have ;) I love the pic there, there's a facial hair theme.
Il y a du petit comme du grand! Et puis un petit peu ici et là ça s'accumule.
Tu te fais une journée "looking up weird shit on Robin Berjon"? Parce que je te préviens, tu risques de finir tard ce soir.
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Ah, oui, ReSpec c'est un mal documenté mais sinon c'est de la balle :)
C'est pas une spec en fait. ReSpec c'est un outil pour écrire des specs plus facilement, et la doc fait auto-exemple.
My cat, Billie, makes her own lol. Featuring here in Escaping The Cupboard From Hell. youtube.com/watch?v=dpRx7i… No cupboard was actually hurt.
Il faut certainement beaucoup de tolérance pour regarder.
No, that's what we tell recruits it's like so they don't run away. In reality...
haha, hadn't seen that side of it. My cat certainly is in more ways than one.
Just froze for a few minutes in a library. I couldn't recall how one used to find books in such places.
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Is it possible to deactivate the Facebook nanny that tells you it's dangerous to leave when you click a link? It breaks Firefox Mobile...
Les Chocolats Voisins, tout simplement sublimes de racisme (trouvé dans une papillote par @projectitude). img.ly/rBzi
Non, c'est un vote électronique (on ne pourrait pas fonctionner en papier...).
Non, les futurs votants n'ont pas accès à l'état actuel du vote (moi oui, mais je ne donne que les chiffres de la participation :).
Yay! :-*
Especially on mobile! You might *move around* outside!
By looking at the live results and comparing them to records of previous votes :)
And it's now 8 votes away!
All voting in W3C uses our WBS (Web Balloting System), it's a simple voting system (with a number of nice features).
Depending on permissions, the results are available to different people. For TAG, they're team-only.
You'll know soon :)
@humourdedroite Les chocolats Voisin pensent à vous dans les papillotes: img.ly/rBzi
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Midnight Boston time. It can take a little while for results to come out after that.
Indeed — and it would be worth it!
Actually I thought we were the 9th all day. It turns out the 9th is tomorrow (and so is the end).
I sadly seem destined never to find a JS templating language that I don't regularly want to strangle with my own bare hands.
"nothing real" can be a pretty attractive proposition in some cases :-)
xslwhat? Nah, templates *can* be good, it's just the solutions available in js that aren't.
how is that related? @tehu
An inspiring view of our neurones as feral, selfish cells by Daniel Dennett edge.org/conversation/n…
J'attends avec impatience le bouquin qui sortira de ses recherches en cours!
Marché sur l'eau: le bateau maraîcher de Paris. Un beau projet à soutenir (et à tester) fr.ulule.com/marche-sur-lea…
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sure :-)
Bah Firefox Mobile, why do you always lose my open tabs?
there is always beer! Just be careful not to be too close by if Tim is parking a car. @JeniT and I almost died that day.
it certainly does!
Release. I'd file but it's hard to repro. I *think* that it loses my tabs whenever there's an autoupdate.
Usually I notice because I clicked a link in another app and only end up with one tab. Tabs from last time is (...)
(…) wiped then I think by the new page/set of tabs.
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Since it seems to happen on updates it's hard to know if there's a heisenbug :)
I used to be on Nightly but it crashed often and the UI was flimsy so I changed. Is it better now?
They're the best bugs :)
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Ok, thanks, I'll give it a new shot.
The <main> element has landed in HTML github.com/w3c/html/pull/5
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Franchement, la photo me fait un peu peur. Le prix aussi.
C'mon man, it's all about love!
Happy? Disappointed? Surprised?
I would expect you to keep editing it, but perhaps not the original document? That would dupe content. @simevidas
Embrace it, it's full of love!
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It's a semantic element to indicate what the main content of the page is. Useful for accessibility, Reader-like stuff @jminuscula
that would be great!
Je suis toujours surpris par vos réactions sur la langue française. C'est un nationalisme qui tranche avec le reste.
Mais ce problème est partagé par vos confrères européens. Or il faut bien une longue commune. Pourquoi préférer le français?
Ce genre de négociation est difficile, les interprètes n'aident pas; une langue artificielle encore moins. @quatremer
Mais est-il seulement possible de faire justice à toutes nos langues? Et sinon, pourquoi ne pas aller au plus pratique?
La négociation c'est mon métier; avoir une langue de travail commune est très pratique. Et aussi une richesse. @quatremer
You'll never get us all, it's CSS4EVER. @stshank
can't you just use Unicode for that?
Aaron Swartz. We’ll miss you.
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Is someone organising something for Aaron? A massive liberation or some such maybe?
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Ça fait quand même bien peur ces défilés d'ouvertement homophobes.
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and there I was expecting a link to MSDN!
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oui, ça donne envie de faire une série du genre "fourophile, pas antisémite !"
@GDegrenne Il est impossible de joindre votre SAV sur votre site, le lien vers un supposé "formulaire" est toujours faux.
A bunch of @w3c jobs, inc. accessibility engineer, Web apps expert, packaged apps expert (many in the Chinese office) w3.org/Consortium/Rec…
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Damn right!
A la table ronde #netneut de Bercy. Bon, c'est une grosse table hein, elle prend tout l'amphi.
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Comme toujours à Bercy, le wifi est très, très neutre. #netneut
Seulement s'il se dit des trucs intéressants avant que je m'endorme. Là, PPT plein de texte de l'OCDE...
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C'est ça :-)
Pour L'OCDE, le système actuel marche bien, et a encouragé les opérateurs à investir dans l'infrastructure. #netneut
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c'est même neuneutre, non ?
je me demande s'il y a eu des recherches sur la saturation du réseau à cause des animations VideoTex exclusive du Minitel rose.
Selon @lauredlr, l'autorité de la concurrence se penche sur les pratiques anticoncurrentielles des OS mobiles. #YADuBoulot #netneut
La place des opérateurs dans l'innovation française montre moins la force de leur contribution que la triste faiblesse du reste. #netneut
EdF crée de la valeur en permettant à la pub en ligne d'exister; pourquoi n'auraient-ils pas aussi leur part du gâteau? #netneut
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hehe :-)
Tout le monde cause du spam sur #netneut, dans l'appli Twitter Android je ne la vois pas. Filtrage ?
peut-être un test A/B?
Malheureusement oui :)
Bonne intro au sujet, merci! Question: je n'arrive pas à savoir si les opérateurs électriques ont des accords similaires.
Je me la pose parce que je soupçonne qu'ils doivent avoir élaboré une solution (potentiellement similaire), depuis le temps.
Je crois qu'on était qquns à se connaître sans se reconnaître :) Mouif, débat rabattu, et annonce minuscule de défausse.
Le W3C vu de l’intérieur, très bon article de @dontcallmedom letrainde13h37.fr/35/le-w3c-vue-…
"intelligibility" being the key word there.
Where's that from?
Free Will, by @SamHarrisOrg. A brilliant short book that's well worth reading. amazon.co.uk/Free-Will-Sam-…
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Ah oui, les Digital Humanities c'est une bonne mine de WTF :)
Je trouve qu'elle a souvent des élans inspirés, mais peut avoir du mal à développer.
Oui, c'est une universitaire américaine à succès en somme :)
best explanation ever, man.
say you have a text and you want some words to be shown as an image representing them. You could just replace the words, but then
you'd have lost the content. Or you could put the pics next to the word, but that would break looking for word sequences.
those two are what the DOM permits today, and how it's done in popular components. Shadow DOM adds a new dimension to handle this.
On my way to @takeoffconf, see you there for what looks like a great programme!
in practice it's of course more complex, and gets really interesting when you have multiple component sources.
@romainhuet t'es pas là, ça va ?
At @takeoffconf, it was -18C overnight but we are warm in our hearts.
What's the hashtag?
No, it's not live streamed unfortunately!
#takeoffconf @immir is live-coding some cool stuff Meteor can do. It always makes for good demos.
My #takeoffconf slides on Web.Next are up at berjon.com/presentations/…
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They won't give you much, but here they are: berjon.com/presentations/…
I don't think the slides really work without me presenting them :)
Everything is better with Care Bears!
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The Care Bears in my slides represent the team that designed the DLNA security model. cc @scottbw
@j_timmer Didn't you rather mean "trawl through Chinese cell phone records"?
Yes, I'm so in love with the Care Bears!
Sauf si tu crées les conditions qui font que les geeks produiront ce type de produit pour le Papi du Cantal?
Tu es fou! @fleurpellerin a courageusement pris la décision de demander au @CNNum d'étudier la question!
En même temps tu as essayé d'utiliser Diaspora?
Ça donne une très bonne idée de pourquoi personne ne s'en sert...
Note que j'ai dit "Papi du Cantal", pas Mme Michu :) @ls01
Mon avocat me conseille de ne pas parler de crypto quand j'ai la gueule de bois. @ls01
Thanks :)
Mais on peut faire de la crypto autrement qu'avec des certifs SSL. @ls01
Thanks :)
Merci encore :-D
Je me tâte aussi à intégrer de la cryptocurrency au Web… Mais il faudrait que je devienne plus compétent pour ça. @ls01
JS c'est génial jusqu'à la première vulnérabilité XSS :) @ls01
Je songeais plutôt à du support directement dans le browser. @ls01
Notamment pour supporter du proof of purchase avec des tokens unforgeables pour que les devs web puissent vendre des apps @ls01
Si tu sais faire, je suis preneur de suggestions (robin@w3.org) :) @ls01
@ZorbaXQuery You have the wrong media type (text/plain) on your Mac download.
I just realise as I see him speak that the @rodneyrehm I drank with last night is the same who wrote this gem: coding.smashingmagazine.com/2012/10/09/des…
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OH:
— "This is all pure 3D CSS"
— "No, this is just sick."
#takeoffconf
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@romainhuet Il parait que du coup tu viens pas :( Remet-toi bien!
#takeoffconf For those wondering what "carbonnade" is (apart from what we're eating tonight), this should clue you in: google.com/search?q=i+car…
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Legit — Git Workflow for Humans. This looks pretty slick #takeoffconf
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"I have to make a confession. It's not easy to say in public. But… I love XML." @wcandillon #takeoffconf
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@wcandillon Please meet @hsivonen, he's da man to speak to regarding your parser integration.
OH: "Why is it that every phone mapping application decided that the only useless piece of information in the UI is the scale?" #takeoffconf
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hey, you know what? I might but I think I'll take them to a bar first :-)
@wcandillon BTW, we were talking about this last night… w3cmemes.tumblr.com/image/40281760…
#takeoffconf Anonymous neither forgives nor forgets that most people didn't show up for the 5K run this morning.
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"90% of data visualisation is crunching through bad, broken data" @ireneros #takeoffconf
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Ça c'est pas grave pour des apps un peu complexes. Mais Meteor a d'autres problèmes.
Neat #datavis trick from @ireneros: make you get that "31º" is Celsius or Fahrenheit by switching its colour from red to blue. #takeoffconf
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"3D is only ever cool in movies — who wants to look at a rotating chart? Hypercubes suck." @ireneros at #takeoffconf #datavis
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OpenVis Conf in Boston, May 16-17. Sounds cool! #takeoffconf
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En fait c'est plein de dragons. Essaie juste d'avoir un <title> qui change quand tu navigues ton app.
Ou si tu as un template inclus conditionnellement, la persistence du formulaire en cours ne marche pas.
Mélanger templates et routeur (ce qui est assez naturel) donne pas mal de flickering.
Aussi, dès que tu dépasses la démo, ça devient vite compliqué de se souvenir de ce qui va sur le serveur ou le client.
Bref, des bonnes idées mais c'est complètement expérimental.
"We're geeks. It's easier for us than it is for most people." #takeoffconf
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"The number of passwords you should be storing: zero. Get out of the password business." #takeoffconf
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Oui mais là c'est pire ;) Enfin ça reste prometteur, mais pas pour tout de suite. Je reste sur Angular.
It won't be very interesting without the speech to match :)
The Riak thing actually just crashes on my Mac. Do you reckon there's a Nexus 7 in reporting a bug? :) #takeoffconf
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#takeoffconf The now famous Dancey Dancey "I completely fucked it up" youtube.com/watch?v=KIcjrt…
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#takeoffconf @asciidisco demonstrates the world's most expensive light switch: computer controlled lamp over Web Sockets.
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"By the way, if you're ever attacked by an AR Drone, just flip it on its back." @asciidisco #takeoffconf
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No, it seems blocked one way or another.
"La moitié estime que la concertation a été suffisante, tandis que presque autant pense l'inverse" Merci @lemondefr, merci.
Thunderbird hit v1.0 in 2004. You'd think by now they'd have figured out how not to constantly corrupt mailboxes.
@wcandillon So, how's that NodeJS binding coming along? cc @ZorbaXQuery
Hmmm, that sounds promising. Do you know if it's possible to convert existing boxes (that aren't in IMAP)?
"Everything in canvas is better if you use globalCompositeOperation" @29a_ch #takeoffconf
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I'll see if I can hack around that limitation. Thanks for the pointer, the corruption is really annoying...
Heh. I still haven't figured out how to run Cloud9 usefully on my local laptop, but I've already had a pull request accepted into it. OSS <3
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It's not "that folder" it's many folders… I'll try compact/rebuild, but only when back home so I have a backup:)
Quelle page?
What's "Flash"?
Ok. Je demandais juste parce que ça pourrait informer mon boulot si jamais ça vient d'un problème de la spec.
Par exemple il y a peu j'ai trouvé une infinite loop dans un algo de la spec. Une implém correcte en serait problématique :)
No, no — it's 1800 BCE, which means nearly *4000* year ago. Yeah the Greeks figured out a thing or two.
#takeoffconf has been great, don't miss it next year!
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Sur le menu de la cantine maternelle de ma fille: Croc tofu à l'ail et fines herbes bio sauce provençale. This. Is. Montreeeeuuuuil!
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The ParisWeb lightning talks in '11 kicked off with that list, it was brilliant. @svgeesus
Column-based UIs are verticality-neutral so you *could* get there. It still fucks with my brain though... @garannm
du poulet au gingembre :-)
yay!
which parts do you mean by infrastructure? At this point HTML has little more than a repo.
W3C gets a new host in China \o/ w3.org/QA/2013/01/w3c…
Honestly, we don't have much. There's github.com/w3c/html-tests… and darobin.github.com/test-harness-t… but we need more.
We might be getting some new very soon whose first job will likely be to document all of this in a usable manner...
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Excellent!
Yes I do, we run it :)
Hi man, I don't think that was my talk :) Are you talking about the not-storing-passwords thing?
No worries :) Re external services, if they fail it's indeed a problem. But I'm not sure what the original speaker had in mind!
@www2013rio It looks like your site has been compromised to offer installing a crufty Flash player. Please act quickly!
No no, some of us can actually be pretty damn blind all over :)
Actually, open data seems to be mostly about XLS... JSON can be found at all good XML conferences. @simonstl
@david_megginson... show and becomes a lot more about genuine implementation. Bottle of wine? @simonstl
Easier for us does mean it makes it easier to build easier to use tools atop it, though. @simonstl
Actually, I hate SQL for… SQL, and schema evolution. Have you tried JSONiq? jsoniq.org @simonstl
Why your distributed social network will not work programmingisterrible.com/post/394388343… (via @recifs)
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I wish @brucel got to pick all our specs' terminology. The <infolump> element would just so rock my world. w3.org/mid/op.wrc2dea…@bruce-pc
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Bah, it's moronic @twitter that can't URL shorten :( lists.w3.org/Archives/Publi… should work
This coworking place has books. It makes me say strange things.
Confirmed tango down, @w3c_systeam has been pinged. @dontcallmedom
It's back up now, @wz43rtx rebooted it.
Oh yeah, I'm sure it has its uses. But I do Web stuff and I don't want to be anywhere near it :)
IanF: By saying "No DRM in HTML5" it's not clear that we're not blowing off our own own hand in an effort to deal with a thorn in our finger
I know! Pedonazis read books too! It's all so dangerous. @brucel
Il te faut un coworking, ça marche top pour ça :)
Ah, oui, c'est sûr que c'est pas le même télétravail ;)
Thanks for making it in the first place :)
Viruses of the common cold, rhinovirions all! One day humankind will exact revenge. That day, you'll wish your capsids were never replicated
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2012 into 2013: web standards in perspective, by @chrisdavidmills netmagazine.com/features/2012-…
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Right, but I think that @simonstl's point is that it showed devs that they didn't *have* to use SQL.
So a few years down the line you get loads of NoSQL into which you can dump whatever (and then not query :) @simonstl
So, Cameron wants the UK to get a Norway-like deal whereby you have to apply EU rules to commerce but don't have a say in creating them? Hmm
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I reiterate my suggestion to look at JSONiq though — XQueriable JSON makes for an interesting beast. @simonstl
Rodolfo! Rodolfo! Rodolfo! Rodolfo!
alas, no, not this year :-(
baby on the way more like :-)
there may well be, we'll find out. Thanks!
My 3yo daughter asked me to "teach her about computers" tonight. Any pointers where to start? I reckon Knuth might be a bit heavy for now.
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Yes she is too young for that, but it's an interesting pointer for later, thanks!
I'm not sure an overpriced keyboard-less laptop is the best option, but I am thinking about a Nexus7 indeed. Thanks :)
Interesting, thanks. She's indeed too young. I wonder about Scratch since it's point & click: scratch.mit.edu
Ils l'ont pas en VOD :(
Ah ouais t'es trop un hacker toi.
I only have 1-3, coming in at 4.2kg. So if 1-7 existed, they'd likely come close yeah :)
Yes, it's quite nice and has been around a while. And it's all SmallTalk so very extensible.
that's a good point but I think it's too expensive for something only she would use.
It's a great thing that Facebook went native, because it's, like, never slow and never buggy now. Right? Right.
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yeah I was thinking of Scratch, thanks. But no daughter of mine is ever learning Python ;-)
merci je regarde !
Il faut notamment lire le chapitre d'Aaron, le reste n'est pas terrible.
Is there any good reason people use Thrift instead of just some JSON over HTTP?
Which is fine for internal stuff, but for a public API it introduces a world of indirection, pain, and hard debugging.
Also, I'm looking at the generated JS code, and I suspect that whatever is gained in decoding is lost in processing :)
Yup, that's what CSSOM is for!
The very worst unicorn tattoos the-drone.com/magazine/les-p…
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Ce sont les mêmes qui parlent de la fin du PC. Tellement fini que MS Windows vient de faire 24% de croissance.
WANT
En anglais, avec un g dur (mais un i court, pas comme geek). En français, on dit image bougeante palettisée. @bortzmeyer
So long as it leads to feeding me delicious pizzas I'm all for it using up all the recovery money.
En sous, pas en parts de marché :) Ton graphe ne montre pas l'avènement d'un post-PC world d'ailleurs. @edasfr
The website is missing a "convincing your wife you need one at home" section.
D'ailleurs, arstechnica.com/business/2013/… @edasfr
Right, but it's so opaque for a public API, it's painful. The @Evernote API is unusable because of Thrift :(
Exactly :) Poor unicorns!
@evernote Any chance you could expose a REST API at some point? This Thrift stuff you have is just insanely painful.
You can tell your web API is bad when it turns out to be simpler and more pleasant to use AppleScript instead. cc @evernote_dev
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Yeah, I just gave up on using the API because something was blowing up in Thrift and it proved too painful to debug.
I don't think so — for something to be worse than AppleScript it has to be pretty damn bad :) @evernote_dev
Quelqu'un aurait des infos sur une panne de Free vers Montreuil ? J'ai soudain une crainte que la v3 ne soit plus supportée...
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il faut croire que non vu que j'en ai une dans mon salon :-)
La ligne 6 est saturée dès Nation. #MetroPourTous
yes, there's a global default for the time out.
we get to use you for $100? I had no idea you were so cheap.
I'm travelling and don't have the docs handy, but if you're seeing timeouts then sure!
On my way to SFO!
Ooh! @danbri, whereabouts are you?
I wish we had BrowserID (or whatever like it) and that the identity were made part of the origin.
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By self-closing you mean <x/>? Or knowing that <x> is always empty and processing as such? Problem is: there's no latter in SVG
That's HTML5 baby!
I doubt it, and no, the purpose isn't to piss off XML people :)
Compatibility with what exists both in terms of implementations and content.
That doesn't self-close. Look at your DOM for data:text/html,<div/><div/>
Hmmm, no, actually that only ever worked in content served as application/xhtml+xml, which is 0.001%
Hmmm, no it wasn't. <div/><div/> would always give you nested divs. You could only use /> in places in which it didn't matter.
define coherent :-)
Oh, you mean it's a human-oriented rather than arbitrary-rules-oriented API — then yes :)
I'm not saying it's pretty (it had to be in part backwards compatible) but I think union types are perfectly valid.
In fact, they're even supported by WebIDL :)
The world is messy. Any clean API is either wrong or a lie.
That's… not a trend line :)
I mean: I don't think it's even *supposed* to be. It's labelled "Laffer curve" which is something else altogether :)
I haven't done economics in a while, but IIRC a Laffer curve is just a doodle you use to justify your preferred tax policy.


