March 2014
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Native French; does one get to beta test in exchange? :-)
Well, the usual I would guess.
Sorry, I’m not sure what you mean by «interrupting»? @mislav
Ah! Yeah, that’s clearer :) I’m not sure how useful it would be given that most libs/frameworks already have their own.
And the existing ones are close, but not compatible. It’s certainly possible, but I’m not sure if there’s value in it at the end.
In that case you'd simply implement the algorithm server-side. There's a corner case that could fail, but that's it.
Sweet!
You mean the steps and stuff like that?
Until I succeed on that mission, you folks want to push out a heartbeat?
Hmmmm. I guess that might be useful. I need to sleep on it.
Ok, sweet then!
Did you get my email? (Just checking.)
«Top UK official involved in national porn filter arrested for child porn» arstechnica.com/tech-policy/20… There’s stuff you just can’t make up.
Poll finds 11% of responders think HTML is a sexually-transmitted disease theregister.co.uk/2014/03/05/htm… #web25 (via @odoutrellot, @Korben)
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«The Mystery of Time’s Arrow» High-level introduction to @JulianBarbour’s fascinating work on time, in @NautilusMag: nautil.us/issue/9/time/t…
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None from me, but I haven't been following what the WG is doing for 2.0.
The Reg’s article I linked to was very clear in its skepticism vis-à-vis this story :) @odoutrellot @Korben @JulieKuehl
No worries :)
Mathematicians are chronically lost and confused (and that’s how it’s supposed to be)
j2kun.svbtle.com/mathematicians…
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«The Foreign Language Effect» probably has interesting implications in open source and standards mappingignorance.org/2014/02/03/man…
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Chouette, encore un moyen de tracker ses utilisateurs :)
@hmutuelle Votre site est tout cassé, cliquer sur "Connectez-vous" ne fait rien, il y a un "/ ]]>" qui traine en fin de page...
Actually ending with that would make more sense than a full stop. @marcosc @stevefaulkner
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@glazou On me demande dans l’oreillette si tu serais repartant pour des LTs à PW en 2014? :)
Bah, évidemment :) On causait de l’idée de prendre Web@25 comme thème — il y a moyen de ressortir de bons dossiers.
In here maybe? lists.w3.org/Archives/Membe… @w3c
And some older stuff in lists.w3.org/Archives/Membe… @w3c
I have no idea, I wasn’t born back then. @w3c
I’m curious… What is it you’re looking for?
The process wasn’t the same back then, notably there was no CR phase.
@monoprix Pourquoi faut-il créer un compte pour acheter sur votre site? Vous cherchez à éviter des ventes?
I saw the proposal for HTML 3 <INSERT> in which the weight of legacy was already much bemoaned. @hadleybeeman
I also found tantalising indication that <IMG DYNSRC> could be used for audio. Never tried that one! @hadleybeeman
Tu as suivi de près? Je n'ai pas encore eu le temps de me pencher dessus.
De ce que j’ai lu jusqu’ici, je partage les bons sentiments mais je vois peu de propositions concrètes. Je ne vois pas bien ce…
…qui est défendu. Il y a aussi des gros mélanges. Ex. paradis fiscaux != optimisation fiscale. Cette dernière est essentiellement…
…le fait de régulations entièrement locales, à effets de bord négatifs. Aussi, Piketty c’est bien ms la q c’est + comment que quoi.
Sur le logement, il y a peut-être plus simple qu’utiliser des fonds public (de plus), par ex. lesgracques.fr/article/pour-u…
Pareil, promouvoir un filet fort comme au DK (j’affectionne) requiert en théorie de faciliter les licenciements, pas l’inverse!
Oui oui, je ne dis pas que c’est mauvais en soi, mais ça me laisse avec beaucoup de questions :)
Je ne dis pas le contraire, mais de ce que je lis je ne vois pas de différence avec le PS pour l’instant.
Je compare à ce que le PS écrit sur le papier :)
L’offre politique qui me manque c’est un parti avec les valeurs de la gauche mais une théorie économique non héritée du communisme.
Du coup en lisant les 20 props j’ai l’impression d’être à moitié satisfait. D’où un lien peut-être plus clair pour moi avec le PS :)
Beaucoup d’anti-financiarisme (souvent justifié), rien sur la création de prospérité.
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Souvent, ça sent l’étatisme naïf à plein nez. Plus d’´Etat c’est plus de pouvoir à ceux qui contrôlent l’État; donc rarement…
…ceux qui ont le plus besoin d’être soutenus.
Sinon j’aime bien le projet européen.
Moi aussi, mais uniquement quand il est appuyé à une reconnaissance de l’utilité de la finance, qui existe.
Voilà. Mais c’est le coté bouc-émissaire qui me hérisse rapidement.
Ceci dit je ne veux pas être négatif hein, je retrouve des valeurs et j’aime bien l’énergie d’un tel nouveau mouvement.
Je critique juste parce qu’en l’état ça ne me donne pas envie de prendre le temps de participer.
Enfin ça me rappelle trop le temps que j’ai perdu au PS et à EELV, quoi.
Le problème est que ceux qui comme nous veulent du 9 sont - nombreux et - patients que ceux qui répètent les mms vielles rengaines.
Pareil, pareil…
Which hotel are the folks going to the Extensible Web Summit staying at? cc @torgo @sideshowbarker @annevk @domenic
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you admin the parent org?
GitHub's ACLs are such that you can end up admin without knowing it. For a long time, all W3C contributors were admins.
use nested section elements and number them with CSS counters?
Que se passe-t-il? @dontcallmeDOM
Ça ressemble juste à un groupe normal :-) @dontcallmeDOM
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Singing? Peckish? About to sneeze?
Bon anniversaire le Web! #web25
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TAPER TAPER TAPER! @nrosenberg
L'actionnaire, pire ennemi de la compétitivité française alternatives-economiques.fr/blogs/chavagne… (via #TTSO)
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«Mon client demande que sa présomption d’impunité ne soit pas bafouée.» ♥︎ @XavierGorce
medias.lemonde.fr/mmpub/edt/ill/…
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Or perhaps firstly you could get your facts straight? berjon.com/blog/2014/01/y… muleradio.net/thebigwebshow/… @stephenfry @doctorow
Cool, I’ll be with you :) I also have a car to go to the f2f if needed. @torgo @annevk @domenic @laszlogombos @briankardell
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«Vague but exciting» — story of my life, really. If I had a motto I’d seriously consider «Incertum Est, Sed Excitando». #web25
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ROFL! You mean it isn’t already? @shepazu
50% off a large bunch of O’Reilly books for #web25! That’s a sweet birthday present. DRM-free too! shop.oreilly.com/category/deals… (via @ivan_herman)
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assez sûr, la source qui m'a filé le lien connaît généralement bien le sujet.
«One other implication is that the Universe has to be finite in both space and time.» Gotta love small side-effects. arstechnica.com/science/2014/0…
You mean in the computer science sense? @exmamaku
How so? Side effects? @exmamaku
Ooooh. Sorry, still morning in my brain :)
I must recommend @JulianBarbour's cosmology, its time capsules (and whole universe) are clearly functional data structures
it's important because getting Java people to understand small and loose shows that you can explain anything to anyone.
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Should I be shocked that IANA can’t even produce a functioning HTML form? Sadly, probably not.
That sucks!
Merci! Bisous :-)
Thank you! Lots of kisses across the sea!
@BrobinBerjon Happy birthday bro!
ayup!
thanks man!
Yes, just define some style of your own in the after/before block. They inherit from the element, but aren’t fixed to it.
In case those don’t work we’ll try to line up a strike :)
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No idea how interoperable they are in readers. Odds are they mostly work.
I like how they're calling it ES6+ :-)
They still make Java?
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You can init them at a given offset, but that would require CSS functionality that I doubt readers support. @hayschweitzer
There’s no better way to find out than to try though :) @hayschweitzer
@SignOffParis Pas mal l’item sur la fin de la civilisation via la surconsommation des riches juste avant une pub BMW et le salon Cinna :)
Done. Mind if I merge?
Yes, it should, but I’m unsure who wants to take it over. Have you discussed this with the systeam before?
Hahahaha, «SHOULD». Spec editors MUST be shot in the kneecap every time they use SHOULD :) @ePubSecrets @hayschweitzer
«The W3C Needs a Dashboard», yet another smart post from @poulpita on her relentless quest to fix the @w3c poulpita.com/2014/03/19/das…
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Is there someone who can explain clearly the relationship between Mozilla Corp and Foundation?
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Right, but what’s the relationship? The corp gets the money, the foundation appoints CEO? Something like that?
I searched but couldn’t find clear information.
Thanks, actually commonspace.wordpress.com/category/hybri… is the best explanation I found (linked from there, but hadn’t seen it at first).
This provides good coverage of hybrid organisations (like Mozilla): commonspace.wordpress.com/category/hybri… cc @fabricedesre @deezthugs
To the extent that anyone does, yes. But checking HTML 4 conformance is impossible in numerous cases. @slightlylate
I would say everything in HTML 4 not marked as obsolete in HTML 5. @slightlylate
Parfois Jean-Kevin en grandissant devient Jean-Cloud. Et là, ça craint.
"The Great Bioterror Threat Is Modern Society" m.nautil.us/blog/the-great… from @NautilusMag
@rubin Tu es cruel.
C’est pas beau de frapper un site à terre :)
Oh, j’avais pas vu. Mais c’est pas beau de frapper un tweet à terre.
Inside the Guardian’s CMS: meet Scribe, an extensible rich text editor theguardian.com/info/developer…
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I guess anything from my Flickr account would work! I can dig.
Oh, so you’re in favour of software patents nowadays? @yoavweiss @gregwhitworth
«Brogrammers may not be macho, but that’s not all there is to it»
medium.com/technology-and…
(via @recifs)
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«We’re worried about the day the 1% no longer need the 99%–but what’s scary is when they don’t fear the 99% either» qz.com/185945/drones-…
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We are all civil society! :) @w3c
I was joking man. But still, some of us are civil society, if not always obviously so.
I am only too well aware. Practical suggestions on how to improve the situation are certainly welcome.
Whose idea of UI is it that when opening a new tab in a browser I might want it to end up anywhere other than right next to my current tab?
That's sort of a special case.
Useful how? All it does is lose context.
I can see cases for "other context" storage, but almost by definition that's a secondary usage and not the default.
yes.
now you've made me hungry.
Is that in SFO? If so please ask them to have one ready for me two weeks hence.
à supposer que les lois de la biologie priment sur celles de la langue n'est-ce pas plutôt "les morceaux de l'ex-moi"?
And sane defaults are the key to choice :-)
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I'll accept that when I hear if only one argument for it :-)
Ah, but that's for tabs opened in the background! @karlpro
De la sortie de @DominiqueVoynet au vote de la LPM par @RHammadi, la campagne de Montreuil aura connu ses rebonds.
A #Montreuil, je vote @mounaviprey pour une gauche affranchie de ses passéismes.
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In Firefox you have the candy thing to group them. (Or, you know, windows.) Browsers that don't restore I just don't use!
Is it just me or is @SwiftKey going resolutely downhill? Is there a similar alternative?
à Montreuil? Y a pas!
ah yeah, I can't use Chrome, the developer tools are incomprehensible.
Un des avantages incontestables d’Internet sur la télévision c’est que personne n’y invite Henri Guaino. #Municipales2014
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Ah, enfin je comprends ce que VDM veut dire. #VoteDeMarseillais
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Et sinon le deuxième prénom de Steeve Briois c'est bien Keevin?
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En même temps, entre @jf_cope et @montebourg chacun de leur côté, est-il étonnant que le FN gagne du terrain? Leurs idées sont déjà partout.
I believe these at least one error (it's two kisses in the 93). Also, practicality requires indicating on which side to start.
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Coup de tonnerre à Montreuil: l’Union de la Droite flirte avec les 17%. (Le FN, lui, reste à 0%.)
C’est une bonne question, je ne sais pas. Dans les ville de plus de 100k habitants je pense qu’on est la seule.
Oui, ça pue la peste brune. En même temps avec les politiques qu’on a il fallait s’y attendre :(
Ils existent dans le coin, ils ont juste estimé que leurs résultats précédents étaient trop pourris pour justifier. @mounirlamouri
La dernière fois qu’ils ont tenté un candidat dans le coin, ils sont restés en dessous de 3%. @mounirlamouri
It is similar in spirit, but intents work better if the user may want to choose between several payment methods. @torgo
Average cost of sending money to Africa: 11.79%. #w3cpayment
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Well, averaging over all of Africa is artificial. There certainly are places where it reaches 23%.
Yes, from Erik Anderson (Bloomberg) at w3.org/2013/10/paymen…. Slides will be made available soon. @dgwbirch
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Looking at the numbers, you clearly didn’t overestimate. 11% is the average, there are peaks at 23%. It’s really bad.
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Very good stuff from @kumar303 talking about mozPay() at #w3cpayment. Fix no more than what’s needed to make payments work on the web.
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Hey, things improve. Ten years ago the vegetarian option was veal.
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Mostly I want to know what happened to Groupie 17.
So you claim my friend, so you claim.
"Retail banks are empty, you could rent them out for dance halls." #w3cpayment
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why is that in pdf? I submitted in HTML!
Using the Web Audio API to interact with a microcontroller. colinbookman.com/2014/03/23/mic…
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Nice use of SVG to make a subtly interactive background on the Stripe Marketplace stripe.com/us/marketplaces
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Yes, requestAC is great for the rich minority that have credit cards. @tobie @thomasfuchs @kumar303 @w3c @poulpita
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Yes, I’m definitely not saying it’s bad — quite the contrary — but it’s not the solution to the whole payment problem.
I’m not sure what your point is. The majority of the world does not have CC. @jaffathecake @tobie @kumar303 @w3c @poulpita
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I like how fast you moved from «startups will fix this» to «operators will take over» @jaffathecake @tobie @thomasfuchs @poulpita
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We have people in this room who definitely think otherwise and are operating on that. Not boo-boo, just do something.
I think that’s a fallacious assumption. The way standards are done has changed a lot over the past 10 years.
That’s one option, there are others (you were still sleeping when they were shown :) @thomasfuchs @jaffathecake @tobie @poulpita
I have no idea where all your anger comes from. Have I insulted you? You’re the only one assuming design by committee here.
Across and inside counrties: a fucking nightmare (depending on countries). @kumar303 @jaffathecake @tobie @thomasfuchs @poulpita
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The good news is: that needs fixing for other reasons, so it’s not ours :) @kumar303 @jaffathecake @tobie @thomasfuchs @poulpita
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I know, that’s very close to the list you vetoed in 2009 :) (1/2)
Just saying: sometimes it’s worth waiting to see what people need and propose before writing it all off as already doable (2/2)
It does, on occasion, happen that entire industries are not completely lost and misguided. This isn’t the early Web anymore.
That's very easy: just find the @w3c specification that defines JS (all W3C specifications are public), you'll find the person.
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I was just reciprocating the constructive nature of the comment :) @lephryk
Same! See you soon hopefully!
Déçu de voir que @IbrahimDufriche et @RHammadi ont préféré l'alliance avec les nostalgiques du XIXè à celle plus logique avec @mounaviprey.
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For what it's worth a W3C effort at fonts was derailed by IE+Netscape in the late 90s. Dave's account is somewhat, um, selective.
Also, a later attempt to renew the effort was fought against by Mozilla. And SVG fonts were rejected as well.
It is of course entirely your right to hate the @w3c, but it's probably more constructive to do so in an informed manner.
It all depends on which innovation you want to slow down. Browser innovating without standards slows down web devs due to interop.
And innovating without protection from the W3C patent policy slows things down due to software patent infringement issues…
You’re not the only one :) There certainly is much to improve. But it is a fairly complex ecosystem to manoeuvre.
Actually these days standards don’t come before implementation. They are developed in tandem, and usually imps ship first.
Keep in mind that bickering is what gets reported. Successful cooperation (of which there is a lot) isn’t very newsworthy.
Eg something like github.com/w3c/web-platfo… with a huge number of tests improving the platform doesn’t get covered, fights do.
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And incidentally that’s a joint W3C-WHATWG effort.
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That depends a lot on the lists :)
heh
Hahaha, nice one :)
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Tract négatif pour #Montreuil2014. Avec Jean-Pierre Brard et @mavillejycrois, c'est la lutte de la classe!
Ebook people: what's the ETA on decent math support? I'm getting too old to lug all this stuff around.
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hmmm, not necessarily. Good math requires a full tool chain too.
Yeah but it's not on eInk and tells me it can't work on my phone or phone's browser :-(
It’s not decent enough on the Web, but ebooks are a different environment. Notably for production.
I look forward to the Android version! I have an S4.
Yeah, but when it comes to equations I’d rather have a slow render than a PNG I can’t read :)
@LeaVerou Do you know if Prism could be made to autodetect the language of a snippet to highlight?
I’ve already donated :) @rdeltour @_mathzilla_
:)
She knows which one :) @LeaVerou
Yes, I’m considering that given how light Prism is. But if it can autodetect then we can remove prettify altogether! @LeaVerou
Homeopathic remedies recalled for containing real medicine
arstechnica.com/science/2014/0… #JustPerfect
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@github Can we please have a repo creation option to directly start with the gh-pages branch instead of master? Thanks!
meow
Tip: if you’re getting weird parsing failures with some JSON, check it someone didn’t sneak in a BOM on you.
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yeah, that's about what it just cost me!
FWIW there's a nascent effort to help develop standards for HTML email w3.org/community/htma…
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«A Dynamical Origin of the Arrow of Time» Great presentation from @JulianBarbour at cast.itunes.uni-muenchen.de/vod/clips/vuPF… #MCMP
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Before jumping into campaign mode, do you have a fleshed out proposal? A good set of use cases?
I don’t know of discussion. Part of the functionality looks like summary/details.
The most important thing to get this on the rails is use cases. Most importantly, showing usage in the wild that matches.
By which I don’t mean usage of the element, but of constructs that would clearly be better captured using it.
Great, thanks!
Pour @mavillejycrois 8 listes c'est trop compliqué alors l'électeur, un peu bête, s'abstient. #PartiUnique #Montreuil
Welcome England and Wales to the civilised world of marriage equality! \o/
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c'est sympa une maison avec bbq quand même hein?
I want the same for JSON.
La lumière n'y est pas bonne car la photo est prise durant les heures les plus sombres de notre histoire.
Quelqu'un a une idée de combien la défaite de la gauche est un retour de balancier des victoires précédentes versus une réelle impopularité?
Comme d'habitude quoi.
Comme le dit @remicourrier, à Grenoble c'est un bon coup de Piolle sur la tête! Bien joué #EELV.
Suspens intenable à Montreuil, 37% Brard (stalinien) contre 37% Bessac (léniniste). Dans les deux cas je crains le pire pour la ville.
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Bon, je dis ça tout à fait comme ça hein, mais bon, en cas de remaniement, je suis à coté de mon téléphone. Voilà voilà.
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Le matin en me rasant.
Très, très spécial alors!
Class Hierarchies? Don't Do That! raganwald.com/2014/03/31/cla…
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Hehe, chacun son tour d’être sous l’eau hein? Mais oui, je m’y attèle.
I beg to differ. In this case, the pattern itself is wrong; and people use it an awful lot!
All I’m saying is that I’ve seen a lot of people make these mistakes. Is it not a good idea to share a pointer to help?
Tu sors.
Browser failures in DOM4 coverage (preliminary results) w3c.github.io/dom/test-resul… and some discussion of details: lists.w3.org/Archives/Publi…
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Did you read the discussion pointer? It’s less bad than it seems.
That said, if one looks at the full results (which I can publish too), there are indeed quite a lot of failures.
The good news though: we have a test suite that catches an awful lot of crap :)
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Je suis déçu de voir que les pouvoirs étendus du CSA n'intègrent pas la censure de la musique pour enfants dommageable à la santé parentale.
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It all seems good from here. @w3c



