Replying to @YaelEisenstat and @Twitter
I would hope the latter, but we shouldn't underestimate the reach of Big Scent.
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December 2019
170 tweets
This @Annaleen piece was a good read and they spoke to all kinds of great people. I disagree on some details, but that's the point: we *should* be debating what we want in the Afterfaang.
Quoting a tweet by @Annaleen ↗
Replying to @julia_edna and @AmeliasBrain
Merci!
An excellent, if depressing, post from @matthewstoller: "Did Economists Stop Congress From Ending Prison Rape?" mattstoller.substack.com/p/did-economis…
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Is self-trolling a thing? Because if it isn’t @Conservatives should totally get credit for inventing it.
Quoting a tweet by @Conservatives ↗
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Replying to @gchampeau and @edasfr
Et la mensurations, ça pourrait être qualifié de données biométriques et/ou de santé — on est en plein Article 9 avec une conservation probablement excessive ça pose problème. Que fait la @CNIL?
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Replying to @edasfr and @jwajsberg
Aussi, souvent, un coach ça se paie alors qu’un mentor c’est bénévole.
Replying to @edasfr and @jwajsberg
Oui oui, je n’indiquais pas que tu préférais une option ou l’autre, juste que ça fait partie de la différence, en tout cas comme je l’entends. Au Times on a les deux mais le mentoring est fait en interne volontairement, et un coach c’est un intervenant.
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Who needs @PeteButtigieg when McKinsey is already running current policy?
Quoting a tweet by @alexanderburns ↗
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@Digiday looks at how The Times is working to increase the effectiveness of its marketing campaigns while decreasing the need for tracking. digiday.com/media/new-york…
Replying to @ericlaw and @marionpdaly, @johnwilander
Well, if you mean that no brutal murdering is involved then that's true, but that's a narrower sense than your initial tweet reads as.
In terms of where the Web's at, it certainly feels like we've returned to darker and more precarious times.
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Replying to @danielwithmusic and @hulu_support, @MaxGendler
That’s an interesting point! It feels a little radical but it could be true.
Replying to @thezedwards and @hulu_support, @MaxGendler
Ah, so they wouldn't want to share their audience to Facebook. A bit late but it makes a lot of sense!
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Replying to @JulesPolonetsky
CI Symposium!
Replying to @yoavweiss and @othermaciej, @ehsanakhgari, @jyasskin
It worries me to read “we could enable some gating in the future if abused”. This feature is constantly and massively abused in native — is there a reason to believe things would be different on the Web? If not, maybe assume there will be abuse from the get-go?
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Replying to @yoavweiss and @othermaciej, @ehsanakhgari, @jyasskin
It’s not that installed Web apps should be inferior, it’s that apps should be reined in. One of the things that makes the Web valuable today is that it’s less of a privacy shit show than native.
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Replying to @yoavweiss and @othermaciej, @ehsanakhgari, @jyasskin
I’d like browsers to keep it that way rather than compete with native on who can dig the deepest cesspool — no?
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This video is amazing. Remember the whenever someone tells you privacy is about "transparency, choice, and control" they mean it should work exactly like what Google did there.
Quoting a tweet by @ashk4n ↗
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I'm very glad to hear that @KatieHill4CA will keep on fighting.
Quoting a tweet by @KatieHill4CA ↗
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Since everyone is losing it over a banana taped to a wall, I thought I might share a creation of my own.
A while back, someone forgot a pair of bananas in the laptop holder in the men's on my floor of the Times.
I thought fit to add the touch needed to turn it into art! 🍌🍌
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Replying to @StefaniCrabtree
Thank you, thank you 🤗
Replying to @lisahmacpherson and @nytimes
I generally don't, but if you're going from meeting to meeting and need a bathroom break that thing is indeed convenient!
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Replying to @null and @ndw
Between meetings, you need the break, where do you store your laptop?
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Replying to @1312Sam
That's all? That hurts, Sam. This actually won a prize, it carried a DIGgie!
Replying to @1312Sam
Well, let's just say that I'm glad the DIGgie Academy valued it more than you seem to!
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Replying to @versac
Both next to the urinals *and* in the stalls — it’s very convenient!
Though maybe it says something about meeting culture…
Replying to @fatemehx2
Thank you 🤗
Google security team is amazing, when they use their formidable abilities to defend users rather than the status quo they make the world a better place. 👏🏻
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Replying to @JulesPolonetsky
It's interesting and complicated. Standards and decentralisation increase competition, which should improve privacy since people will have better choices. But they also make it difficult to exert control over what is published, which can prove tricky.
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Replying to @JulesPolonetsky
I've been entertaining the notion that standards are slated for a renaissance after having all but varnished. It will be interesting to see what it looks like.
Replying to @slightlylate and @allafarce
Yeah, I've been thinking about running a social network from Web Packaging, including the ability to embed long form. Decentralised, privacy-friendly, publisher-friendly seems like a "pick any two" problem though.
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What the actual fuck Britain.
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Has anyone considered opening branches of the SNP in England and Wales? I mean, it’s at this point it’s not the craziest idea.
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Replying to @JeremiahLee and @dalmaer
True, but the Compact isn’t there and 2020 could still see a repeat.
Replying to @cwarzel
Oh, for fuck’s sake, this thing doesn’t stop? I thought the Internet was a demo version, that someone would come to take it back and maybe return it after heavy post-mortem and debugging.
Fuck.
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Haha, no, that would be cute and sweet. I don't think that Maps ever collects location much, at least not on Android. It's Android that collects location data several hundred times a day per user, every day.
That's well over 2 billion people 🤗
Quoting a tweet by @cwarzel ↗
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They're also on Twitter as @KungFuNuns!
Quoting a tweet by @kottke ↗
Replying to @Cennydd
Actually, I would say it's a problem that it's too often true.
Replying to @jason_kint and @kickstand, @acfou, @RickMandler, @benthompson, @ssnstudy, @dmarti, @KevinSimler, @LouPas, @ArtieBulgrin, @markloughney, @HowardShimmel, @r2rothenberg
Indeed, the counterfactual isn't ITP in a 3P BT world, but the same metrics in an ITP world.
And with intermediary capture, it's a good question whether this market structure isn't disincentivising investment efficiency for publishers (and marketers). Maybe one for @ssnstudy 😁
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Replying to @ThisIsJoFrank
Depends on what you’re looking for and where, but we have jobs! nytimes.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/NYT
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Replying to @random_walker
Email back with a PDF attachment called "reviewer3.pdf" that contains nothing but your name.
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Search, back from when it helped you find stuff outside the Googleverse.
Quoting a tweet by @killedbygoogle ↗
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Replying to @sroussey
Ha, true! Do they complain?
Replying to @LAM_Barrett
If I thought my alternative was to grow a goatee I would definitely run.
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Replying to @dfabu and @wycats, @RickByers, @slightlylate, @domenic, @briankardell, @fabricedesre, @brucel, @stevefaulkner, @LeonieWatson, @chaals
I don’t think that insularity is necessarily the root cause, but once it starts happening it could easily be a vicious cycle. I’m not saying this to point fingers at all, just to flag that it might need to be deliberately broken.
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Replying to @dfabu and @wycats, @RickByers, @slightlylate, @domenic, @briankardell, @fabricedesre, @brucel, @stevefaulkner, @LeonieWatson, @chaals
Speaking to thousands is hard, but I’m not convinced it has become harder. The community has always held the dominant browser to higher levels of accountability. I can see why it would feel frustrating but it kinda comes with the size of the territory.
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Replying to @dfabu and @wycats, @RickByers, @slightlylate, @domenic, @briankardell, @fabricedesre, @brucel, @stevefaulkner, @LeonieWatson, @chaals
I mean, I still recall how Netscape got roasted over their attitude towards DOM standardisation — and the community was comparatively small back then.
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Replying to @dfabu and @wycats, @RickByers, @slightlylate, @domenic, @briankardell, @fabricedesre, @brucel, @stevefaulkner, @LeonieWatson, @chaals
For me what harms trust in Chrome is regular actions that are self-serving or self-preferencing to Google. I’m 100% convinced that they are not intended that way, but there’s a level of market leadership at which good intentions don’t matter.
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Replying to @dfabu and @wycats, @RickByers, @slightlylate, @domenic, @briankardell, @fabricedesre, @brucel, @stevefaulkner, @LeonieWatson, @chaals
One example is something as basic as tying APP to being logged in to Chrome. A bigger one was the launch of Privacy Sandbox which brushed aside existing work with (seemingly) zero input from anyone who’s actually worked on these problems and made claims about the publishing (…)
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Replying to @dfabu and @wycats, @RickByers, @slightlylate, @domenic, @briankardell, @fabricedesre, @brucel, @stevefaulkner, @LeonieWatson, @chaals
(…) industry for which no one seemed to have asked publishers if they actually made sense. (In my personal opinion they completely misunderstood the market.)
These things add up, and yes, it sucks but the bad sticks more than the good — that’s just humans.
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Replying to @sroussey
What, they've now complained?
Replying to @sroussey
Ah, sucks! Can you reimplement through user browser? I look forward to giving it a spin!
The fun part is that this somehow happened despite the monopolisation of the market.
Quoting a tweet by @Chronotope ↗
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Replying to @mcnees
Impeach him too.
Replying to @michael_w_busch and @mcnees
I believe you can, though expelling him would be simpler. It's still a 2/3rd supermajority though.
Replying to @superwuster
In 25 years I have yet to see someone present a clear explanation of how it would work from the user's side (apart from voluntary tipping). The technical problems can be solved but it's not clear what micropayments are actually supposed to be.
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Replying to @michael_w_busch and @mcnees
No worries at all, my recollection of 1797 senatorial proceedings can get slightly off on occasion as well.
Replying to @mathewgoldsholl and @superwuster
They seem to have a technical solution but I'm not seeing a user view beyond "pay a little for one piece". How many times per day do you want to decide if the price is right? How do you avoid clickbait? What is the return policy?
Don't get me wrong, the other models also have problems and I'd love to see this one work, if nothing else as another tool in the box. But the tech part has been solved before, it's not the bit that's been missing.
"The companies that collect all this information on your movements justify their business on the basis of three claims: People consent to be tracked, the data is anonymous and the data is secure.
None of those claims hold up."
nytimes.com/interactive/20…
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We've covered these issues before — this time it's with a larger dataset, and a year later there's been no legislation to fix this and we're still hearing "transparency, choice, and consent" can fix this. It can't.
nytimes.com/interactive/20…
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Do you have access to massive troves of personal data? Geolocation? Bidstream logs? Here is how to give us tips while protecting your anonymity: nytimes.com/tips
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It's interesting to contrast these stories with yesterday's excellent look at China's "sweeping tools for authoritarian control". It's notably fun to see that Chinese state surveillance is just as careless with data as private companies!
nytimes.com/2019/12/17/tec…
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A few years back I toured a major tech company in Shenzhen. I met young, hip, stylish, smart people who demoed the surveillance tools they built in perfect English. In the West you meet the same people — they are just pitching their wares to marketers instead of government.
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Replying to @OrinKerr and @cwarzel, @iblametom, @nytopinion, @stuartathompson
It's not one-sided and advocacy-minded, though?
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Replying to @null and @DSepDC
They have a series lined up — I don’t know what solutions they have in mind but that’s the last article.
Speaking personally: affirmative opt in for this is just not going to work. We need to make third-party data controllership illegal.
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Replying to @null and @DSepDC
For sensitive data like geolocation, it should only be collected first-party, by an actively used interface, purpose-limited, and on mandatory short retention.
Replying to @null and @DSepDC
Only if it is controller by a party that works for the user, such as a browser not owner by an ad business. Otherwise you just get dark patterns.
Replying to @null and @DSepDC
In general relying on consent for everything brings it all back to a personal responsibility framework, which is pretty cynical and abusive.
Replying to @null and @DSepDC
Third-party data controllers are unnecessary, hostile to users, and harmful to publishers — is there a good reason for their existence? Just because there isn’t a proposal yet doesn’t mean there couldn’t be one. The simplest effective approaches often emerge late in the game.
Replying to @SusanJoseph1786 and @APompliano, @TabbFORUM
Thanks — will read.
I can’t say it doesn’t make sense. Surveillance, like violence, should be a State monopoly. (Hopefully with better judicial protections than in China.)
Quoting a tweet by @mattyryze ↗
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Replying to @webpusher
Actually there is! Here is an anonymous datum: 876219.
But yeah, there isn’t really anonymous personal data.
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Programmatic advertising makes money laundering pretty easy. It might be time to regulate it like banking and finance. martechseries.com/mts-insights/g…
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"In one case, someone who spent their weekdays at the Pentagon visited a mental health and substance abuse facility multiple times."
That's something often overlooked into privacy discussions: national security.
nytimes.com/interactive/20…
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This is something that's underappreciated: @stuartathompson and @cwarzel performed state-level espionage work with what is in fact a tiny dataset compared to what these companies amass constantly.
What used to require the KGB is now in the hands of common thugs.
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(Now I'm not saying that Stuart and Charlie are thugs. I haven't said that.)
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Replying to @hober
The Priority of Constituencies kind of gives you privacy, but yeah. It's not too late to update the Principles!
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Replying to @timogeo and @stuartathompson, @cwarzel, @nytimes
Being aware of it and having access to the material necessary to properly prove and report on it are two different things. In fact, I wish they had access to more because this is just a small bit.
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Replying to @jenvalentino and @HongPong, @emptywheel, @nytopinion
Wait till we do a third take on location data but from the business side! 😉
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Replying to @random_walker
Maybe develop a new citation index that discounts non-OA publications posterior to, say, 2020. Start having hiring & tenure committees at prestigious places use it?
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Replying to @niawag1 and @niawag2011, @jenvalentino, @HongPong, @emptywheel, @nytopinion
You're joking, but Styles did a privacy piece a few weeks back.
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Replying to @antoniogm and @swodinsky
There is a middle ground, and it's actually not that hard to find it starting from nothing other than an understanding of privacy and a comparison with perfectly accepted data practices offline. But it rules out huge chunks of current adtech.
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The "if consumers understood" premise is only even possible in a world in which adtech companies can even explain what they do. Having reviewed dozens these past two years it's clear that's unlikely to happen any time soon.
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This might be a subtweet.
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"It is a federal crime to open a piece of junk mail that’s addressed to someone else." That's one thing I like about The Times's Editorial Board position on surveillance: it cuts right through digital exceptionalism.
nytimes.com/interactive/20…
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People's attitudes towards privacy have not changed, and there is no reason that they should. But there's this weird insistence from some that the digital realm is different, apart. It's completely unfounded.
Like a bad plot device, things that harm you online harm you for real.
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For every online surveillance case you can come up with an offline equivalent. For instance, just replace third-party trackers with videosurveillance. In almost all cases, there's no debate as to whether it's appropriate or not.
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Online surveillance is covert and the digital world is opaque. Remove those factors and these internet-wide tracking-based business models fall apart. They're already cracking at the seams.
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We need more comprehensive solutions than can be outlined in an editorial of course, but this is a good start.
I look forward to seeing what comes next!
Have some great holidays!
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There are hundreds of adtech companies you've never heard of who can offer this kind of service.
And imagine how much more of this Facebook or Google can do given what they have. It's just a few weak quarters away.
Quoting a tweet by @PrivacyProject ↗
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I spent my nights and weekends drinking myself stupid throughout my twenties. Does that count?
Quoting a tweet by @twobitidiot ↗
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Replying to @brucel
Thank you, sir.
Replying to @null and @marionpdaly, @cwilso
I have moved in with some smaller humans, and they make hangovers a bit less enjoyable. open.spotify.com/track/6kr34ZLp…
Replying to @null and @marionpdaly, @cwilso
Hahaha 😂
In Europe we have this crazy thing: on trains each seat will have a little number. And then, when you buy a ticket, your ticket has a number too and it matches that of a seat. Then you don't have to fight grumpy people so your kids aren't spread across a car sitting on their own.
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This tip is provided free of charge, use it wherever you feel like it @Amtrak. Like, you know, now would be okay.
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Replying to @edasfr
Attends: on ne peut même pas payer pour avoir une meilleure place que les pauvres, c'est quoi ce bordel?
Replying to @null and @ndw
I'm not entirely sure these fully qualify...
Replying to @edasfr
Il y a une solution à tout!
Replying to @sandhawke and @ndw
I have hope that NYS will do something soon! But they also have to do the right thing, and it's a poorly understood topic.
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Replying to @_abialas and @femalegazebot
They do that here!
Replying to @_abialas and @femalegazebot
Alamo Drafthouse for instance!
loltaxidermy (circa 1895)
Murder at dusk.
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"I.Q. hysteria also resulted in sterilization laws that were enforced only against the poor." @BrentNYT was already right in 1994 nytimes.com/1994/10/28/opi…
It looks like the only way I'm ever skiing again is if I get custom-made shoes. It's there any miraculous service or place or there such that it's actually affordable? The only options I could find are way unreasonable.
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Replying to @null and @arainert
Yeah custom boots. I'm looking to get my own (again), rentals would never work! I have the feet of a ballet superstar.
Replying to @null and @arainert
Yeah, I've been looking into that for this very reason, but they can't mould my feet because there aren't (that anyone has found to date) a boot with high enough an in-step.
Replying to @Trinart
Yes, but they can't mould to my feet because there are no boots large enough to fit my in-step.
Replying to @michael_nielsen
I'm curious: methane capture only rarely seems to be considered an option. Is there a reason for that?
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Replying to @null and @marionpdaly
🖐️
Replying to @null and @marionpdaly
Let me know where you think I can be helpful 🤗
Replying to @null and @marionpdaly
Makes sense!
I read this article last night and now I'm interested in dialetheism.
Send help.
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I disagree with Kenneth but it's a good topic!
To get it out of the way: search engines have incentives only partially aligned with an open Web. They need content to feed on, but it's better for them if the content is in their space and constrained rather than open.
Quoting a tweet by @auchenberg ↗
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That's very clear with Google Search which is increasingly a walled garden dominated by links to other Google properties and the wasteland of creativity that AMP is.
The primary cure here is antitrust. Nothing new or surprising there.
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More importantly: there is no such thing as THE business model of the Web. At this point in time monetisation on the Web is dominated not just by advertising, but by a very specific implementation of it. This is contingent and likely temporary.
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Ghosn With The Wind? nyti.ms/2u7fH1d
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Replying to @annbass and @brave
Thank you 🤗 Brave is really cool, definitely worth checking out.
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